Air Date

June 17, 2025

Featured Guest

Dr. Kurt Campbell
Former Deputy Secretary of State, U.S. Department of State

Moderator

Jay Sapsford
Senior Vice President, Global Risk Analysis, U.S. Chamber of Commerce

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The Pentagon is reviewing plans for the joint provision of nuclear submarines to Australia, a deal seen as the pillar of the trilateral security partnership between Australia, the U.K., and the U.S., or “AUKUS.” The review has sparked alarm in both Canberra and London and raises hard questions about U.S. shipbuilding capacity, defense readiness, and Washington’s long-term vision for deterrence in the Indo-Pacific.

Former Deputy Secretary of State Dr. Kurt Campbell, a driving force behind AUKUS and a key architect of U.S. Indo-Pacific strategy, joins The Call to assess whether AUKUS is faltering, what this moment signals about U.S. global commitments, and whether the trilateral pact can still deliver on its promise of security and technological edge.

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